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Kissaki
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 Sign in/Credit/Class....Question - 2006/01/19 18:44 Alright I figured I'd go ask the people who have been at this for a few years. I recently got elected as PM for the shire of the mystic lowlands. I'll set up the senario first. At the last sunday event a person was playing monk then was annoyed that I used presense to my advantage and the next game decided randomly without announcing it loudly but saying in a normal voice to the people on his side which was too far away to be heard from our side that he was taking off his monk sash and going to play peasant. The battle starts I assume he's under pressense and walk by him and die. Being rather confused and dead I work out that he's decided to play peasant. After a little bit it's brought up that you only play peasant when you do not have the necessary garb to play your class and that it is not really a freely made choice to play peasant. It was debated about whether he would be able to get a point and he yelled out that he did not want nor care if he got a point for the day or not. It was decided he could play peasant that time but next time he would have to stay monk or switch to a regular class and to be sure to announce it loudly to all when changing. After a while I got out the sign in sheet and passed it around and yelled loudly asking if everyone had gotten to it then left it on the table for the rest of the event. Later that night when I was updating the points and put every one on the sign in sheet on. Later the monks girlfriend comes to me asking why he did not get a point. I had honestly not even realized he wasn't on the sheet so it was not beign malicious or vindictive. After that ensued a large arguement about him getting the point and me refusing because he said he did not want it and did not sign in. This to me clearly indicated he did not want a point and therefore there was no reason to go back to ORK and put in a point for someone who seemed to just be acting up. After all one point shouldn't matter that much. The Monarch is unsure of the situation and does not want to see everyone fighting so I come to here to ask what should be done. My question is is it alright to play peasant in such a situation? Should I in this situation give him a point?
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Rewth
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 Re:Sign in/Credit/Class....Question - 2006/01/19 20:51 whew.... paragraphs would help that be more readable... but that said got a lot of thigns to say here... gonna number em, cuz i'm a ninja like that.

1. switching classes between battlegames is entirely kosher. swithcing in the middle isn't, but i don't think he did that. announcing the switch isn't required, thats what sashes are for.

2. playing peasant is completely valid whenever anyone chooses to. its is a class. jsut one that sucks and doesn't get any benefits from taking credits. he'd have been better off playing warrior, jsut for the extra life.

3. good job updating the ork in a rapid fashion. makes me happy.

4. if he chose not to sign in for the day, then technically he gets no credit.

5. since you knew he was there and you knew he played monk that day you could have signed him in as pm and given him a monk credit. or you could have marked it undeclared.

6. as you said. one point shouldn't matter that much. that goes the other way than you intended as well. giving someone a credit even if you don't really think they earned it isn't that big a deal. just talk to em and ask em to do things differently. in the end, no one gets hurt by someone having and extra cred here or there.

7. Mystic Lowlands.... right now you are listed in the ork as a freehold... are you guys petitioning rosetta pact? jsut curious. i like to keep an eye on such things so the ork and this website stay accurate. "But right now I'm a little concerned about my pants, since I don't know where they are." - Valathina Nailo
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QuietEyed1
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 Re:Sign in/Credit/Class....Question - 2006/01/20 00:08 If it was between two battlegames, I see no problems there. Otherwise get the reeve off their butt.

If he played a character class in one complete battlegame, and didn't sign in...

...If this is a first time thing, then give him the monk credit.

...If this is a continuing problem, then award him exactly nothing for not signing in. If he cared about credits a whit, he'd take the five seconds to sign in for the day. Quiet

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Takezu
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 Re:Sign in/Credit/Class....Question - 2006/01/20 09:11 Lesson learned from dealing with Japanese business men: "Once is Forever".

If you let them not sign in once and get credit they will always think they deserve credit (often months later) when they don't sign in. Thus I would not give him the credit (but I am a dick that way). Tell them its a learning experience and to sign in next week.

As far as changing classes in the middle of a game or after picking of the teams.

If you mean that after the battle game started he decided to change classes. That does not work. Within one battle game you can only be one class.

In my view once you choose a class at the lineup for picking teams you are stuck with it till the next battle game.

Takezu

Post edited by: takezu, at: 2006/01/20 09:12 It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. --Aristotle

Patriotism: The willing act of putting one's life & well being at risk for politicians who are not similarly disposed.
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Hoshi Akuma
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 Re:Sign in/Credit/Class....Question - 2006/06/29 11:20 actually Rewth says that is is only played when appropriate garb or equipment is not available for any other class and must be played if appropriate garb is not worn. so technically he had the garb and sash to play monk and he should have been a monk for that game. If it is abused like that it's not fair to the rules. The Peasant class if I understand it correctly is used in rare cases that someone is not available, especially after exhausting all options, to play any other class. So technically he abused a loophole which is a restriction in the battlegame. All he had to do was create or find someone who had another sash for another class. I would give him the credit in Peasant which is a waste and tell him that if he abuses the rules again that he gets no credit. play the damn game everyone has weaknesses and strengths no one class is ubertastical.
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Rewth
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 Re:Sign in/Credit/Class....Question - 2006/06/29 11:56 hoshi... you know this thread was almost half a year old?

besides, it's jsut a bloody peasant.


woman - Well, how did you become King, then?
arthur - The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I am your king!
dennis - Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
arthur - Be quiet!
dennis - Well, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
arthur - Shut up!
dennis - I mean, if I went round saying I was an emperor just because some
moistened bint had lobbed a scimita at me, they'd have me put away!
arthur - Shut up, will you? Shut up!
dennis - Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.
arthur - Shut up!
dennis - Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
arthur - Bloody peasant
dennis - Oh, what a giveaway. Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about. Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn't you?

Post edited by: rewth, at: 2006/06/29 12:24

Post edited by: rewth, at: 2006/06/29 12:29 "But right now I'm a little concerned about my pants, since I don't know where they are." - Valathina Nailo
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Hoshi Akuma
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 Re:Sign in/Credit/Class....Question - 2006/06/29 14:31 my bad! When there is no light, there is dark;
When there is no dark, there is light;
When there is both dark and light, there is Bendu

Did they look like psychos? They were f%$#in'
vampires. Psychos don't explode when sunlight
hits'em, I don't care how crazy they are. - S
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