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Defender - 2007/11/13 05:56 Ok, it hasn't happened yet but is possible. So before it happens now that we have a rule change. How is the Defender chosen if no one declares for the position or declares but doesn't qualify, yet a tourney is held for that position? It is very likely to happen so an answer or ruling is needed. Thank you.
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Re:Defender - 2007/11/13 16:10 I didn't see this in the corpora under the files section, so the one on here must not be up to date.
I seem to remember Kord saying the current corpora was under the yahoo group.. anyway, here's the original proposal

this passed, changed corpora to:
(you can still see the old look on the link in blue above for the full proposal, the bold emphasis are mine)

Imperial Champion
9.A.a. The person who places highest in the fighting portion of the Crown Tournament and meets the requirements as laid out in 9.A.e. shall become Imperial Champion.
9.A.b. The Imperial Champion shall hold this position until the end of the Emperor/Empress’s reign.
9.A.c. If the Imperial Champion leaves the office, the person who came in second highest in the Crown Tournament and meets the qualifications as outlined in 9.A.e shall ascend to the office.
9.A.d. Shall descend from office if he or she misses more than four weeks in a row or eight weeks total, counting attendance anywhere in the Empire, Imperial events or inter-kingdom events. Exception – The Imperial Althing may consider special circumstances.

9.A.e. The Imperial Champion must meet the following qualifications in order to ascend to office.
9.A.e.1. Must be self nominated for the position.
9.A.e.2. Must receive a minimum 3.0 score in at least three categories in the Arts and Sciences portion of the Crown Tournament.
9.A.e.3. Must pass a reeve’s and corpora test as part of Crown Qualifications.

9.A.j. When the Imperial Champion steps down he or she may, based on good and valuable service in the position, and at the discretion of the Emperor/Empress, gain the title of Defender of the Realm.



And change 9.B.a. through 9.B.d. from the old to:

Ducal
9.B.a. The person who places highest in the fighting portion of the Ducal Crown Tournament and meets the requirements as laid out in 9.B.e. shall become Ducal Defender.
9.B.b. The Ducal Defender shall hold this position until the end of the Duke/Duchess’ reign.
9.B.c. If the Ducal Defender leaves the office, the person who came in second highest in the Ducal Crown Tournament and meets the qualifications as outlined in 9.B.e shall ascend to the office.
9.B.d. Shall descend from office if he or she misses more than four weeks in a row or eight weeks total counting attendance in his or her home duchy, special events anywhere in the Empire (coronations, midreigns, quests, etc.), Imperial Events or inter-kingdom events. Exception - the ducal althing may consider special circumstances

9.B.e. The Ducal Defender must meet the following qualifications in order to ascend to office.
9.B.e.1. Must be self nominated for the position.
9.B.e.2. Must receive a minimum 3.0 score in at least three categories in the Arts and Sciences portion of the Ducal Crown Tournament.
9.B.e.3. Must pass a reeve’s test and a corpora test as part of Ducal Crown Qualifications.


And re-number the sections accordingly (i.e. 9.B.e becomes 9.B.f, 9.B.f becomes 9.B.g, etc.)

for Baronial Champion:

9.C.a. The person who places highest in the fighting portion of the Baronial Crown Tournament and meets the requirements as laid out in 9.C.e. shall become Baronial Defender.
9.C.b. The Baronial Defender shall hold this position until the end of the Baron/Baronness’ reign.
9.C.c. If the Baronial Defender leaves the office, the person who came in second highest in the Baronial Crown Tournament and meets the qualifications as outlined in 9.C.e shall ascend to the office.
9.C.d. Shall descend from office if he or she misses more than four weeks in a row or eight weeks total counting attendance in his or her home barony, special events anywhere in the Empire (coronations, midreigns, quests, etc.), Imperial Events or inter-kingdom events. Exception - the baronial althing may consider special circumstances

9.C.e. The Baronial Defender must meet the following qualifications in order to ascend to office.
9.C.e.1. Must be self nominated for the position.
9.C.e.2. Must receive a minimum 3.0 score in at least one category in the Arts and Sciences portion of the Baronial Crown Tournament.
9.C.e.3. Must pass a reeve’s test as part of Baronial Crown Qualifications.


And re-number the sections accordingly (9.c.e. becomes 9.C.f, 9.C.f. becomes 9.C.g, etc.)


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so basically we're looking at

champion must self nominate
must qualify w/minimum 3.0 score in whatever numer of categories determined by group (barony 1, duchy 3, empire 3)
must pass reeves test for barony and reeve & corpora test for duchy & empire.



I've got the reeves & corpora tests, and the group GMR's should have them as well. if you need to test feel free to see me.
if you want to declare for Imperial Champion that should be done soon, the tournament is December 1st in Darkmoon per Talisin's schedule post.

if no one declares we will have to go from there, I'm sure none of us want to see that situation.
Dragoon
Strike First. Strike Hard. No Mercy.
Hús Vetra Skald
IMU
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Re:Defender - 2007/11/14 12:49 indeed, i have been slacking horribly getting the corpora and rules up to date here. "But right now I'm a little concerned about my pants, since I don't know where they are." - Valathina Nailo
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Re:Defender - 2007/11/14 15:13 Yes, the current one is on the yahoogroups. Rev. 28: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/ironmtn-l/files/ Casca Eruoy
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Re:Defender - 2008/02/01 06:52 That still doesn't answer the question though. What happens if no one delcares or no one passes thier quals? do you just go without the Champion for that reign? We've had multiple people delcare for the position and then fail to qual either by A&S or Testing, luckily there has been someone down the line of fighting placement that met both criteria and thus stepped into the position but I can see possibility of having no qual'd player for champion....
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Re:Defender - 2008/02/01 23:05 Ummm, wouldn't it then default to the Althing to approve non-qualled candidates? Isn't that what we do for other qualled positions?

Disclaimer - I have not reviewed the current corpora close enough to know if those sections have changed in the last revision. I promise to do so before I run for another office.
Khanar Ekorn-Svarta

"Behold my nuts, and know that I am your God"
- The Black Squirrel of Elmwood
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Re:Defender - 2008/02/02 15:17 "Ummm, wouldn't it then default to the Althing to approve non-qualled candidates? Isn't that what we do for other qualled positions?"

Yes to both questions.
Casca Eruoy
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