Shield and hand on weapon! - 2007/05/29 00:44Does a person weilding a shield take an arm shot if the shot manages to catch the inside of the shield and hit on the hand?When there is no light, there is dark; When there is no dark, there is light; When there is both dark and light, there is Bendu
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Re:Shield and hand on weapon! - 2007/05/29 03:07Yes
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Re:Shield and hand on weapon! - 2007/05/29 04:57Yes, and your bow isn't considered to have a hand guard either. I believe that you can choose to lose an arm or destroy the bow, but I am not sure."Let me explain this to you once. If I kill you: You will be awake, you will be facing me, and you'll be armed." -Malcolm Reynolds -Firefly "Your puch should begin in the soles of your feet and end in the back of your opponent's skull." -Tyr -Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda
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Re:Shield and hand on weapon! - 2007/05/30 03:02Barthalemue wrote: Yes, and your bow isn't considered to have a hand guard either. I believe that you can choose to lose an arm or destroy the bow, but I am not sure.
I'd like to know the answer to this. Pet Peeve alert: The bow should never be immune to being destroyed since it's the only unpadded weapon on the field.
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Re:Shield and hand on weapon! - 2007/05/30 03:35so are you telling me the bow can't be hardened?When there is no light, there is dark; When there is no dark, there is light; When there is both dark and light, there is Bendu
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Re:Shield and hand on weapon! - 2007/05/30 14:42Combat Rules: Arm – The first hit to the arm will result in the loss of use of that limb. A struck arm must be kept behind your back. A second hit to the wounded arm will result in death. Hand shots count as a hit to the arm unless you are holding a melee weapon in that hand, in which case it counts as hitting the weapon. Wrists are considered part of the arm, not the hand.
a hit to a hand weilding a bow takes that arm, as a bow is not a melee weapon, same with hitting a hand weilding a shield, the shield is not a melee weapon.
normally a bow hit by a weapon is destroyed, however a bow can be hardened, it is an item and it doesn't cover a player directly.
Harden (E, Protection) Healer 4, Wizard 2 Enchantment cloth Tie cloth on object, repeat x5 “Harden this (name of item).” Makes object indestructible, except versus Sphere of Annihilation. Cannot be placed on players, garb, armor or anything else that covers a player directly. May be cast on shields.
just a general note,
being that bows have no padding and are not intended to be weilded for blocking/striking/melee, if you (the general you, no one in particular) actively attempt to block with a bow I would consider that dangerous activity, and any reeve worth their salt would correct your behaviour or call you dead or remove you from play if the behaviour could not be correctedDragoon Strike First. Strike Hard. No Mercy. Hús Vetra Skald IMU
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Re:Shield and hand on weapon! - 2007/05/30 17:06Hoshi Akuma wrote: so are you telling me the bow can't be hardened?
hoshi... if i ever see you intentionally block a melee weapon with your bow i will dick stab you and take your bow away until you apologize to it.
you should never put yourself, your bow or your opponant at risk of the kind of injury a bow can cause if it catastrophically fails.
tuck it behind your back and either run, pull a short sword, or jsut take the death."But right now I'm a little concerned about my pants, since I don't know where they are." - Valathina Nailo
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Re:Shield and hand on weapon! - 2007/05/30 17:21While I have done that before with my bow (Mainly it's jsut a thrust forward to block a swing not using it as a melee weapon) I usually try to run and scream like a little bitch. I was thinking more from throwies and other arrows.When there is no light, there is dark; When there is no dark, there is light; When there is both dark and light, there is Bendu
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Re:Shield and hand on weapon! - 2007/05/30 21:33Grendel wrote:
just a general note,
being that bows have no padding and are not intended to be weilded for blocking/striking/melee, if you (the general you, no one in particular) actively attempt to block with a bow I would consider that dangerous activity, and any reeve worth their salt would correct your behaviour or call you dead or remove you from play if the behaviour could not be corrected
Which makes it pretty retarded that it can be hardened in the first place? Edit - Same holds true for militia games as well where the "Bows cannot be destroyed" rule is in effect. Just let them be destroyed and wait out a 100 count for a new weapon.
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Re:Shield and hand on weapon! - 2007/05/30 22:34hardening the bow protects it from warp wood and pyrotechnics and projectile hits, etc. so it's not like hardening it makes the person use the bow like a shield. it's usefull to have the harden on there. edit: retarded or not, that's the rules, if you want to see them changed you can always suggest a rules change to Medryn.
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Re:Shield and hand on weapon! - 2007/05/31 01:48i actually disagree with the concept that you can not cast harden on a bow in order to protect it from magical effects or the occasional projectile hit. i find absolutely nothing in the rules that says its not allowed. none of the section grendel quoted initally support the idea either, they rather go towards supporting the idea that one should never block with a bow.
i absolutely agree with the idea that actively blocking with a bow is a dangerous activity and should not be done, but find that inconsequential to the previous idea.
from what i see, casting harden is perfectly acceptable. proceeding to then intentionally block melee weapons is not."But right now I'm a little concerned about my pants, since I don't know where they are." - Valathina Nailo
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Re:Shield and hand on weapon! - 2007/05/31 02:23Have you been around different amtgarders than I have for all this time? Seriously, you know better. Give them an out and they'll take it. Somethings are not best left to peoples "Better Judgement."
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Re:Shield and hand on weapon! - 2007/05/31 03:04i may know that someone will take advantage of this fact. and i do in fact know that many people make a regular habit of specifically hardening thier bows. but from a rules perspective i can not find anything that makes it illegal. and as much as i'd want to say "you can not harden a bow, ever." i can't justify it.
as it is, harden is only a small part of the equation. it simply gives someone the idea that they could block and then go about thier merry way. a non-hardened bow doesn't preclude being able to block a weapon. we simply know that doing so destroys it the first time you try. and beleive me when i say i''ve seen people do it. i'm ashamed to say that i've only given someone an immediate verbal thrashing for it once."But right now I'm a little concerned about my pants, since I don't know where they are." - Valathina Nailo
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Re:Shield and hand on weapon! - 2007/06/26 02:00If Per say a player wore a gauntlet during a battlegame and was popped in an open hand, would he stull lose his arm?Yes, hate me, hate me with all your being and let the hate flow through you!
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Re:Shield and hand on weapon! - 2007/06/26 03:07If it was a real gauntlet and had been rated for armor value, then I would say it would be treated as such.
Edit: Back in the day, I had a welder's glove that I intended to stud as use when fighting single sword. Then I wondered why I'd ever be fighting single sword in a battle game and the idea went away.
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