Proposal #10: Awards Standard Change to Champion position (Contingent on COM vote) - 2007/02/26 04:03Proposal 10:
Contingent upon the passing of the Awards Standardization Proposal by the Circle of Monarchs at Clan 2007, Change sections 9.A.a through 9.A.e. and 9.A.j. in the Iron Mountains Corpora from:
9.A.a. Whoever wins the fighting portion of the Imperial Crown Tourney shall become the Imperial Champion. 9.A.b. The Imperial Champion shall hold this position until the end of the Emperor’s/Empress’ reign. 9.A.c. If the Imperial Champion leaves the office, the person that came in next in the fighting portion of the Imperial Crown Tourney shall ascend to the office. 9.A.d. Shall descend from office if he or she misses more than four weeks in a row or eight weeks total counting attendance anywhere in the Empire, Imperial events or inter-kingdom events. Exception - the Imperial Althing may consider special circumstances. 9.A.e. The Imperial Champion must pass a reeve’s test before stepping up.
9.A.j. When the Imperial Champion steps down he or she may, at the discretion of the Emperor/Empress, gain the title of Defender of the Realm . To
9.A.a. The person who places highest in the fighting portion of the Crown Tournament and meets the requirements as laid out in 9.A.e. shall become Imperial Champion. 9.A.b. The Imperial Champion shall hold this position until the end of the Emperor/Empress’s reign. 9.A.c. If the Imperial Champion leaves the office, the person who came in second highest in the Crown Tournament and meets the qualifications as outlined in 9.A.e shall ascend to the office. 9.A.d. Shall descend from office if he or she misses more than four weeks in a row or eight weeks total, counting attendance anywhere in the Empire, Imperial events or inter-kingdom events. Exception – The Imperial Althing may consider special circumstances. 9.A.e. The Imperial Champion must meet the following qualifications in order to ascend to office. 9.A.e.1. Must be self nominated for the position. 9.A.e.2. Must receive a minimum 3.0 score in at least three categories in the Arts and Sciences portion of the Crown Tournament. 9.A.e.3. Must pass a reeve’s and corpora test as part of Crown Qualifications.
9.A.j. When the Imperial Champion steps down he or she may, based on good and valuable service in the position, and at the discretion of the Emperor/Empress, gain the title of Defender of the Realm.
And change 9.B.a. through 9.B.d. from
9.B.a. Whoever wins the fighting portion of the Ducal Crown Tourney shall become the Ducal Defender. 9.B.b. The Ducal Defender shall hold this position until the end of the Duke/Duchess or Duchess’ reign. 9.B.c. If the Ducal Defender leaves the office, the person that came in next in the fighting portion of the Ducal Crown Tourney shall ascend to the office. 9.B.d. Shall descend from office if he or she misses more than four weeks in a row or eight weeks total counting attendance in his or her home duchy, special events anywhere in the Empire (coronations, midreigns, quests, etc.), Imperial Events or inter-kingdom events. Exception - the ducal althing may consider special circumstances
To
9.B.a. The person who places highest in the fighting portion of the Ducal Crown Tournament and meets the requirements as laid out in 9.B.e. shall become Ducal Defender. 9.B.b. The Ducal Defender shall hold this position until the end of the Duke/Duchess’ reign. 9.B.c. If the Ducal Defender leaves the office, the person who came in second highest in the Ducal Crown Tournament and meets the qualifications as outlined in 9.B.e shall ascend to the office. 9.B.d. Shall descend from office if he or she misses more than four weeks in a row or eight weeks total counting attendance in his or her home duchy, special events anywhere in the Empire (coronations, midreigns, quests, etc.), Imperial Events or inter-kingdom events. Exception - the ducal althing may consider special circumstances 9.B.e. The Ducal Defender must meet the following qualifications in order to ascend to office. 9.B.e.1. Must be self nominated for the position. 9.B.e.2. Must receive a minimum 3.0 score in at least three categories in the Arts and Sciences portion of the Ducal Crown Tournament. 9.B.e.3. Must pass a reeve’s test and a corpora test as part of Ducal Crown Qualifications.
And re-number the sections accordingly (i.e. 9.B.e becomes 9.B.f, 9.B.f becomes 9.B.g, etc.)
Rationale: The Award Standardization Proposal makes the Imperial and Ducal Champion positions qualifying positions for a Crown Belt. This proposal aims to make the Champion positions worthy of being qualifying positions for Crown belt. It also adds a requirement for “good and valuable service” to the title of Defender of the Realm, which is considered equivalent to an Imperial Tournament win as qualification for the Warlord title. The position of Baronial Defender is changed in order to maintain the continuity of the Champion positions with the other positions of the Empire, in that Imperial, Ducal, and Baronial levels of an office are required to do the same type of qualifications, only to varying degrees. Note that this proposal, if passed, will only go into effect contingent upon the successful passing of the Award Standardization Proposal by the Circle of Monarch’s at the upcoming meeting at Clan 2007.Kord
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Re:Proposal #10: Awards Standard Change to Champion position (Contingent on COM vote) - 2007/02/27 19:28this is an important measure to consider, as it changes how champions are determined,
if this passes, no more 'the dude that won is champion' however, the person running for champion that quals with a minimum score of 3.0 in at least 3 categories in the A&S, and then places highest would be champion they would also need to self declare for champion & of course pass reeves/corpora tests.
if the Awards standardization passes at Clan in the Circle of Monarchs, this would be a good change to require some extra steps to qualify & an outline of determining whether or not a champion should receive the defender title, bear in mind if the Awards standard passes, the title of Defender would count as an imperial tourney win towards warlord, and towards crown knighthood quals.
unless I'm just not seeing the proposal for duchy champion,
the one major flaw I see in this, is that there is this change for Imperial Champion, and there is a proposal for Baron Champion, but not for Ducal Champion. a duchy should be held to the same standards, but there is no allthing to change duchy champion.
Post edited by: Grendel, at: 2007/02/27 19:29Dragoon Strike First. Strike Hard. No Mercy. Hús Vetra Skald IMU
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Re:Proposal #10: Awards Standard Change to Champion position (Contingent on COM vote) - 2007/02/27 22:10It's there under 9.B.a. as above, but it's not put forward as a separate proposal.
Both Ducal and Imperial Champion are considered qualifying positions for the Crown Belt under the Award Standardization Proposal (Henceforth to be known as ASP, because I am lazy). Therefore, this proposal deals with both of those positions together. Baronial Champion was added as a separate proposal as it is not included in the ASP as a qualifying position. It was added to give people the choice of whether or not to keep with the current pattern of offices that the IM has.Kord
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Re:Proposal #10: Awards Standard Change to Champion position (Contingent on COM vote) - 2007/02/28 14:07sorry Kord I missed that thanksDragoon Strike First. Strike Hard. No Mercy. Hús Vetra Skald IMU
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Re:Proposal #10: Awards Standard Change to Champion position (Contingent on COM vote) - 2007/02/28 14:18a good step in the right direction... but does it have any effect on what the imperial champion's responsibilities are?"But right now I'm a little concerned about my pants, since I don't know where they are." - Valathina Nailo
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Re:Proposal #10: Awards Standard Change to Champion position (Contingent on COM vote) - 2007/02/28 16:30No it does not. The primary goal of this was to make sure that only qualified individuals who wanted to do the job of the office were entitled to take the position. The responsibilities have not changed; hopefully, those individuals will actually pay attention to what their responsibilities are, as opposed to just coasting by in a figurehead position.
The corpora already outlines a number of responsibilities for the Imperial Champion:
Responsible for in-game time at IK events where nothing is scheduled. Responsible for runningWweaponmaster. Responsible for coordinating weapon safety throughout the Empire.
What others would you like to see for the Imperial Champion? Ducal?Kord
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Re:Proposal #10: Awards Standard Change to Champion position (Contingent on COM vote) - 2007/03/01 02:00good question. any idea what the other kingdoms require of thier champs?"But right now I'm a little concerned about my pants, since I don't know where they are." - Valathina Nailo
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Re:Proposal #10: Awards Standard Change to Champion position (Contingent on COM vote) - 2007/03/01 02:38I can't speak for every kingdom, but Neverwinter's champions duties were: organizing battlegames and whatnot when no other events are scheduled, being responsible for weapon and armour safety and weapon and armour checks, and potentially removing individuals from the field for unsafe or unsportsmanlike conduct.
Additionally, local level champions also maintain the lost and found, ensure that safe loaner/rental weapons are available from weekend to weekend, and organize litter clean-ups for the park.
Also, at kindom level, the champion was responsible for any necessary weapon clarifications and worked closely with the GMR in that respect.Casca Eruoy
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Re:Proposal #10: Awards Standard Change to Champion position (Contingent on COM vote) - 2007/03/01 02:52Okay, in addition to what I listed for NW, I could only find one other duty for the champion in the other kingdoms: responsible for enforcement of order at Althings.Casca Eruoy
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Re:Proposal #10: Awards Standard Change to Champion position (Contingent on COM vote) - 2007/03/01 03:42well, in that regard i think that we should require other tasks of them whilst they hold hte position...
guardian of the imperial booze. in the event that the emperor has a drink, be it alcoholic or not, the imperial champion will be responsible for that drink. not limited to prevention of others yoinking it, poisoning it, spilling it, or other wise being naughty in its presence. should the imperial cup run empty, the champion should also prolly go get another one, but thats at their discretion."But right now I'm a little concerned about my pants, since I don't know where they are." - Valathina Nailo
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Re:Proposal #10: Awards Standard Change to Champion position (Contingent on COM vote) - 2007/03/01 14:07some days Sean.. some days..
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Re:Proposal #10: Awards Standard Change to Champion position (Contingent on COM vote) - 2007/03/01 15:32RW Chumpion is responsible for running the warskill parts of Quals and Dragonmaster.Count Orlando Sheriff of Obsidian Hills Kingdom of the Rising Winds
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Re:Proposal #10: Awards Standard Change to Champion position (Contingent on COM vote) - 2007/03/01 16:38Well, the IM champion does currently have some duties, it just seems the responsibilities that the champion does have aren't followed too stringently.
9.A.f. The Imperial Champion will be in charge of defending the Empire’s honor. 9.A.g. The Imperial Champion is responsible for game-time at interkingdom event where nothing else is scheduled. 9.A.h. The Imperial Champion is in charge of organizing the Imperial weaponmaster tournament. 9.A.i. The Imperial Champion may at his discretion remove unsafe weapons from the field at Imperial events and is responsible for coordinating weapon safety throughout the Empire.Casca Eruoy
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Re:Proposal #10: Awards Standard Change to Champion position (Contingent on COM vote) - 2007/03/01 17:46Rewth wrote: well, in that regard i think that we should require other tasks of them whilst they hold hte position...
guardian of the imperial booze. in the event that the emperor has a drink, be it alcoholic or not, the imperial champion will be responsible for that drink. not limited to prevention of others yoinking it, poisoning it, spilling it, or other wise being naughty in its presence. should the imperial cup run empty, the champion should also prolly go get another one, but thats at their discretion.
I decree that that for the next 4 months the imperial defender shall "test" these duties. Should the Imperial defender not be around all local defenders shall take up his slack.
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Re:Proposal #10: Awards Standard Change to Champion position (Contingent on COM vote) - 2007/03/01 21:14Takezu wrote: Rewth wrote: well, in that regard i think that we should require other tasks of them whilst they hold hte position...
guardian of the imperial booze. in the event that the emperor has a drink, be it alcoholic or not, the imperial champion will be responsible for that drink. not limited to prevention of others yoinking it, poisoning it, spilling it, or other wise being naughty in its presence. should the imperial cup run empty, the champion should also prolly go get another one, but thats at their discretion.
I decree that that for the next 4 months the imperial defender shall "test" these duties. Should the Imperial defender not be around all local defenders shall take up his slack.
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