Thornwall - 2006/08/09 17:41Thornwall requires a 10 ft. cloth as a spell component.
The rulebook states this as the Limitations for Thornwall:
"This wall can be destroyed by 10 hits with a melee weapon, on a hit from a flame effect (fireball, flameblade, flame arrow, etc.)"
Now my questions is this: What must be hit in order to destroy a thornwall? There is no physical wall to beat on with melee weapons, so must they hit the fabric? And if so, shooting or fireballing the actual fabric makes this an exceptionally difficult shot; are they just be able to shoot through the area in question? There is no way to make Thornwall consistent for all forms of attack, as far as I can see. While you can say melee attacks must hit the fabric, but projectile attacks must only pass over the fabric, this is entirely inconsistent with every other method of attack; as far as I am aware, this is the only time in the rulebook where one is able to attack a non-physical entity.Kord
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Re:Thornwall - 2006/08/10 19:47sorry for hte delay here kord. you kinda stumped me.
going by the rules, i think the strip is what would nee to be struck, even by arrows or spellballs. it really is all but compeltely ignored by our rules sytem and thats the simplest answer i can give you. yay occam's razor.
which kinda sucks.
as a reeve on a battlefield i would personally be a little more flexible. if someone goes up to a thorn wall and starts swinging through the air where the wall should be, intending to destroy it, i'm not gonna fault them for it. especially not if they are truely roleplaying the existance of the wall. on the same vein, should someone intentionally shoot a flame arrow or throw a fireball thoguh the plain of hte wall, i'd prolly call the wall ignited. but i would really be looking for intent. i'm less likely to ignite due to a stray arrow that happens ot clip it compared to a arrow shot with the intent to ignite."But right now I'm a little concerned about my pants, since I don't know where they are." - Valathina Nailo
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Re:Thornwall - 2006/08/11 16:11scout can walk through a thornwall with tracking,
so if you see a scout about to walk through it, can you time a flame arrow to shoot through the wall space, (not necesarily at the scout) to turn it into a flame wall as they try to walk through? or would it be best to turn it into a flame wall before they try to step through? I can see the logistics of turning it into a flame wall as the scout steps through being very difficult to reeve.Strike First. Strike Hard. No Mercy. Hús Vetra Skald
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Re:Thornwall - 2006/08/12 19:03I would say that in reality, I would call the scout dead because of flamewall. As a reeve if you are carefully stepping through a thorn barrier that is set on fire, you will die by either fire, or the thorns from quick escape."Let me explain this to you once. If I kill you: You will be awake, you will be facing me, and you'll be armed." -Malcolm Reynolds -Firefly "Your punch should begin in the soles of your feet and end in the back of your opponent's skull." -Tyr -Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda
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Re:Thornwall - 2006/08/12 19:05I have a question. The effect of camoflage is effectively that the scout is out of the game until he cancels camoflage or is tracked out of it. can sombody trap a scout in camoflage with a thornwall?
I know he wouldn't be trapped, but he would be forsed to use a track, which might be useful."Let me explain this to you once. If I kill you: You will be awake, you will be facing me, and you'll be armed." -Malcolm Reynolds -Firefly "Your punch should begin in the soles of your feet and end in the back of your opponent's skull." -Tyr -Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda
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Re:Thornwall - 2006/08/13 05:23since thronwall (like most wall spells) must be laid i na straight line it would require at least three of them to trap the scout. and someone had better have used tracking to know he was there in the first place or i'm gonna thump em for meta gaming."But right now I'm a little concerned about my pants, since I don't know where they are." - Valathina Nailo
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Re:Thornwall - 2006/08/14 14:24and as soon as you use tracking on him, he'd come out and better start stabbing you, or you better start stabbing him.
either way, before you could get the thornwall off someone would be dead. plus who runs a battle game with 3 druids? that's gotta be a huge battle.
and my question on shooting a flame arrrow through a thornwall was more of a 1. shoot an arrow through the space above the thornwall strip, does this make it a flame wall?
and, if so, could you time a flame arrow to turn the thornwall into a flame wall as the scout walked through? -- or would that timing be too difficult?Strike First. Strike Hard. No Mercy. Hús Vetra Skald
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Re:Thornwall - 2006/08/14 14:39yes, you could time it properly. but it's up to the reeve o nthe field to make the call."But right now I'm a little concerned about my pants, since I don't know where they are." - Valathina Nailo
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